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01.07.2002

The New Old Leadership in Afghanistan Listen Listen


Senator Joe Lieberman meets with Afghan leader Hamid Karzai

Forums: What should the U.S. do to help the new government of Afghanistan?

Read Peter Maass' article, "Gul Agha Gets His Province Back"

 

The Hamid Karzai era has begun in Afghanistan. But don't be fooled into thinking Afghanistan will see the dawn of a new day, says New York Times Magazine correspondent Peter Maass. Karzai is merely a U.S.-chosen figurehead, with more of a following in Washington than in his own country. The real leaders of the new Afghanistan, Maass argues, are the old warlords who have reemerged to take control of the fiefdoms they were ousted from by the Taliban several years ago.

Even more troubling, says Maass, is that the warlords do not take Hamid Karzai very seriously. They pay him politically correct lip service to ensure that he delivers their aid checks from the United States. But the new vision that so many people had for a united, prosperous Afghanistan may actually be a distant dream.

Guest:

  • Peter Maass, correspondent with The New York Times Magazine; author of "Love Thy Neighbor: A Story of War"

    Plus, Tom and Jack break down President Bush's economic offensive.

    (Read the text of the President's economic speech featured this hour)

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    Robert Kaplan

    Forums: What do you think of Robert Kaplan's argument?

    Read the first chapter of Robert Kaplan's "Warrior Politics: Why Leadership Demands a Pagan Ethos"

    Listen to Mary Robinson's speech featured this hour in its entirety

    Going Pagan with Robert Kaplan Listen Listen

    Despite all of the talk about how life changes and advances, Robert Kaplan argues that the world is pretty much the same world it was 3,000 years ago. It's a violent world, one where the strong survive and the weak are crushed. The best Chinese and Greek philosophers would have no trouble understanding or navigating the modern world -- because the same basic forces at play today were the same issues faced by societies millennia ago.

    In addition, Kaplan argues that the modern notion of a moral conquest is a far-off dream. Real leadership requires putting aside the Christian ethic of sacrifice and taking on a more pagan perspective. This hour, Robert Kaplan shares his view of the modern world.

    Guest:

  • Robert Kaplan, foreign correspondent for more than twenty years and author of many books, including "Warrior Politics: Why Leadership Demands a Pagan Ethos"

    Plus, United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Mary Robinson speaks on how the United States and the United Nations must work together to protect civil rights.

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